Wilfred Silver, 18981962 (aged 63 years)

Name
Wilfred /Silver/
Type of name
birth name
Given names
Wilfred
Nickname
Pop
Surname
Silver
Birth
Note: Hartley W. vol 2c p196; Actual date from birth certificate and confirmed by 1939 register
Death of a paternal grandmother
January 11, 1900 (aged 1 year)
Potbridge, Hampshire, England
Latitude: 51.282533 Longitude: -0.920395
Note: Age: 66; Hartley W. vol 2c p157; Got certificate
Census
Address: Railway Huts
Note: Age: 2; Relation to Head of House: Son
Birth of a sister
Note: Hartley W. vol 2c p211; Actual date from death entry ('39 register gives 24 Aug 1902 but birth registered 4th quarter '01)
Death of a paternal grandfather
August 22, 1908 (aged 9 years)
Potbridge, Hampshire, England
Latitude: 51.282533 Longitude: -0.920395
Note: Age: 76; Hartley W vol 2c p102; Got certificate
Census
April 2, 1911 (aged 12 years)
Feltham, Middlesex, England
Latitude: 51.448706 Longitude: -0.404044
Address: 65 Queen's Road
Note: Age: 12; Relation to Head of House: Son
Death of a maternal grandmother
Note: Age: 85; Hartley W. vol 2c p273; Got certificate - 2 cerebral hemorrhages and 14 days exhaustion
Death of a maternal grandfather
October 12, 1914 (aged 15 years)
Surbiton, Surrey, England
Latitude: 51.388247 Longitude: -0.298962
Address: Oakenshaw Lodge, Langley Road
Note: Kingston vol 2a p573; Got certificate
Burial of a maternal grandfather
October 15, 1914 (aged 15 years)
Kingston-upon-Thames, Surrey, England
Latitude: 51.410468 Longitude: -0.305942
Note: All Saints
Death of a brother
Note: Age: 17; Whitechapel vol 1c p318
Military service
Note: Attested in Sunbury and then Hounslow later that day for 'medical'.
Military service
January 1, 1916 (aged 17 years)
Grantham, Lincolnshire, England
Latitude: 52.938217 Longitude: -0.611547
Note: Transfered to Machine Gun Corps
Military service
Posting
November 12, 1916 (aged 17 years)
Note: Arrives in Salonika and joins 66th Machine Gun Company (part of the BSF [British Salonika Force]).
Military service
Note: Admitted to hospital suffering from malaria. Rejoins company 30 Mar 1918
Military service
February 15, 1919 (aged 20 years)
Note: 66 Coy is back in England and Wilf is given 1 months leave.
Military service
Note: 66 Coy (now assigned to 8/Bn) embark for Archangel as part of the Russian Relief Force.
Military service
Note: 8/Bn embark for Bombay.
Military service
Note: 8/Bn embarks for Basra (re-inforcements for the British Mandate of Mespotamia).
Military service
Posting
March 14, 1921 (aged 22 years)
Note: Assigned to 6th Armoured Car Company (later to become the Tank Corps).
Death of a mother
July 14, 1921 (aged 22 years)
Feltham, Middlesex, England
Latitude: 51.448706 Longitude: -0.404044
Address: 65 Queen's Road
Note: Age: 55; Staines vol 3a p2; Got certificate
Military service
Posting
December 24, 1921 (aged 23 years)
Note: 8/Bn embark for Bombay.
Military service
Demobilisation
October 2, 1922 (aged 23 years)
Bareilly, Uttar Pradesh, India
Latitude: 28.367036 Longitude: 79.430438
Note: Expiration of his period of Army Service.
Note: (Click on the Media tab for his 'Character reference' from his C.O.)
Civil marriage
September 11, 1924 (aged 25 years)
Staines, Middlesex, England
Latitude: 51.433053 Longitude: -0.514179
Address: The Register Office
Birth of a son
Address: 'Apperton', Staines Road
Note: Staines vol 3a p33; got certificate
Death of a father
March 22, 1925 (aged 26 years)
Feltham, Middlesex, England
Latitude: 51.448706 Longitude: -0.404044
Address: 65 Queen's Road
Note: Age: 71; Staines vol 3a p13; Got certificate; Cerebral heamorrhage
Baptism of a son
August 29, 1926 (aged 27 years)
Stanwell, Middlesex, England
Latitude: 51.456399 Longitude: -0.479899
Note: St Mary the Virgin
Residence
Address: 39 Broad Leys Estate
Note: (Living with in-laws)
Residence
Address: 558 London Road
Note: (Living with in-laws)
Census
September 29, 1939 (aged 40 years)
Ashford, Middlesex, England
Latitude: 51.442893 Longitude: -0.472983
Address: 558 London Road
Note: Length Man Permanet Way; Marital Status: Married
Note: (Living with in-laws)
Death of a brother
Note: Age: 68; Aldershot vol 6b p32
Death of a brother
Death
September 6, 1962 (aged 63 years)
Stanwell, Middlesex, England
Latitude: 51.443938 Longitude: -0.473018
Address: Ashford Hospital
Note: Age: 63; Middlesex S vol 5f p59; Got certificate
Cremation
South West Middlesex Crematorium
September 11, 1962 (5 days after death)
Hanworth, Middlesex, England
Latitude: 51.4471 Longitude: -0.387835
Note: Personal knowledge
Probate
October 12, 1962 (1 month after death)
Note: SILVER Wilfred of 558 London Road Ashford Middlesex died 6 September 1962 at Ashford Hospital Stanwell Middlesex Administration London 12 October to Winifred May Silver widow. Effects £328 13s. 2d.
Family with parents
father
James Thomas Silver
18541925
Birth: March 5, 1854 24 21 Odiham, Hampshire, England
Death: March 22, 1925Feltham, Middlesex, England
mother
Ellen Sophia Baldwin
18631921
Birth: August 8, 1863 35 36 Odiham, Hampshire, England
Death: July 14, 1921Feltham, Middlesex, England
Religious marriage Religious marriageJanuary 26, 1884Odiham, Hampshire, England
4 months
elder sister
18841967
Birth: May 13, 1884 30 20 Winchfield, Hampshire, England
Death: March 1967Winchester, Hampshire, England
2 years
elder brother
18861886
Birth: June 1886 32 22 Hartley Wintney, Hampshire, England
Death: December 1886Hartley Wintney, Hampshire, England
19 months
elder brother
18871960
Birth: December 8, 1887 33 24 Winchfield, Hampshire, England
Death: August 24, 1960Scarborough, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
22 months
elder sister
18891966
Birth: October 8, 1889 35 26 Winchfield, Hampshire, England
Death: March 1966Hillingdon, Middlesex, England
13 months
elder brother
18901959
Birth: November 4, 1890 36 27 Winchfield, Hampshire, England
Death: March 1959Aldershot, Hampshire, England
2 years
elder sister
Alice Silver
18931982
Birth: January 20, 1893 38 29 Potbridge, Hampshire, England
Death: July 24, 1982Winchester, Hampshire, England
3 years
elder brother
18951973
Birth: July 19, 1895 41 31 Winchfield, Hampshire, England
Death: June 1973Leeds, Yorkshire, England
2 years
elder brother
18971914
Birth: July 1897 43 33 Winchfield, Hampshire, England
Death: December 1914Whitechapel, London, England
17 months
himself
Wilfred Silver
18981962
Birth: November 27, 1898 44 35 Winchfield, Hampshire, England
Death: September 6, 1962Stanwell, Middlesex, England
3 years
younger sister
19011983
Birth: August 24, 1901 47 38 Winchfield, Hampshire, England
Death: December 1983Winchester, Hampshire, England
Family with Winifred May Meads
himself
Wilfred Silver
18981962
Birth: November 27, 1898 44 35 Winchfield, Hampshire, England
Death: September 6, 1962Stanwell, Middlesex, England
wife
Winifred May Meads
18971981
Birth: December 14, 1897 24 30 Bray, Berkshire, England
Death: January 7, 1981Stanwell, Middlesex, England
Civil marriage Civil marriageSeptember 11, 1924Staines, Middlesex, England
6 months
son
James Wilfred Silver
19252008
Birth: March 11, 1925 26 27 Stanwell, Middlesex, England
Death: December 15, 2008Chertsey, Surrey, England
Birth

Hartley W. vol 2c p196; Actual date from birth certificate and confirmed by 1939 register

Census

Age: 2; Relation to Head of House: Son

Census

Age: 12; Relation to Head of House: Son

Military service

Attested in Sunbury and then Hounslow later that day for 'medical'.

Military service

Transfered to Machine Gun Corps

Military service

Arrives in Salonika and joins 66th Machine Gun Company (part of the BSF [British Salonika Force]).

Military service

Admitted to hospital suffering from malaria. Rejoins company 30 Mar 1918

Military service

66 Coy is back in England and Wilf is given 1 months leave.

Military service

66 Coy (now assigned to 8/Bn) embark for Archangel as part of the Russian Relief Force.

Military service

8/Bn embark for Bombay.

Military service

8/Bn embarks for Basra (re-inforcements for the British Mandate of Mespotamia).

Military service

Assigned to 6th Armoured Car Company (later to become the Tank Corps).

Military service

8/Bn embark for Bombay.

Military service

Expiration of his period of Army Service.

(Click on the Media tab for his 'Character reference' from his C.O.)

Residence

(Living with in-laws)

Residence

(Living with in-laws)

Census

Length Man Permanet Way; Marital Status: Married

(Living with in-laws)

Death

Age: 63; Middlesex S vol 5f p59; Got certificate

Cremation

Personal knowledge

Probate

SILVER Wilfred of 558 London Road Ashford Middlesex died 6 September 1962 at Ashford Hospital Stanwell Middlesex Administration London 12 October to Winifred May Silver widow. Effects £328 13s. 2d.

Note

No idea where the 'Pop' came from but that's what the [my] family called him and he was 'granddad Pop' to my sister and I. (I'm now 'Pop' to two of my grandsons).

Note

In 1815, Wilfred lied about his age in order to sign-up at the age of 16 - he said his birthday was 27 Nov 1896 whereas it was actually 27 Nov 1898. A part of the evidence for this, is that he was 5'4" tall on enlistment and 5'9" tall on discharge. Rather than enlisting for 'Duration of War' he signed-up for '7 + 5' (7 years with the Colours and 5 years in the Reserve - they must have seen him coming) with the Royal Fusiliers. He was Attested in Sunbury on 05 Aug 1815. Later that day he was in Hounslow barracks for his 'medical' with regimental no. 16822. Two days later he was posted to the Royal Fusiliers.
On 01 Jan 1916 Wilfred was transferred to the Machine Gun Training Centre in Grantham and then to 2/Bn Machine Gun Corps and a change to his regimental no. - now 29678. Later that year, on 05 Jul 191 6, 2/Bn embarked Devonport for Salonika as part of the BSF (British Salonika Force) where they joined 22nd Division on 14 Jul 1916. However, Wilfred didn't embark for Salonika until 26 Oct 1916, where he joined 66th Machine Gun Company 'in the field' on 12 Nov 1916 (I suppose he was a replacement). There he was to remain for just over two years. During this time, Wilfred contracted Malaria (apparently it was rife along with dysentery). He was admitted into hospital 04 Sep 1917 and didn't rejoin his company until 30 Mar 1918.
It is likely that Wilfred took part in the 'Battles of Doiran' (24-25 Apr & 8-9 May 1917).
27 Jan 1919, 66 Coy embark Salonika bound for England and on 15 Feb 1919, Wilfred is given 1 months leave (his first 'home' leave since his 'sign-up' 3 1/2 years earlier!).
01 Apr 1919, 66 Coy is assigned to 8/Bn and on 12 May 1919, 8/Bn embarks Newcastle-on-Tyne bound for Archangel as part of the Russian Relief Force - the short-lived Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War. A mere 4 months later, on 27 Oct1919, he's heading back to the UK in the 'final evacuation'.
A few months later on 27 Feb 1920, 8/Bn is now embarking Devonport bound for Bombay, where they arrive 24 Mar 1920.
Six months (to the day) later, 27 Aug 1920, 8/Bn embarks Bombay for Basra (reinforcements for the British Mandate of Mesopotamia) whence they arrive 02 Sep 1920. 8/Bn stays in Iraq until end of 1921. It's during this time in Iraq that Wilfred was transferred to the emerging Tank Corps, where he was assigned to 6th Armoured Car Coy in Baghdad on 14 Mar 1921. His regimental no. is now 7808691.
On 24 Dec 1921, 8/Bn (certainly 6th AC Coy) embarked Basrah for Bombay. They were deployed to Bareilly, where he stayed until the 'expiration of his period of Army Service', on 02 Oct 1922. On 24 Nov 1922, he was transferred to 'Sec "B" Army Reserve to serve his '5'.
Wilfred must have enjoyed his time in the army as he served a further 4 years in the reserve (now the Royal Tank Corps), and was finally 'DISCHARGED ON TERMINATION of ENGAGEMENT', 04 Aug 1931.
Whilst I'm sure that he did enjoy the army, it's interesting to note that when he left Grantham in 1916, his qualification was 1st Class (Vickers) - so he was a gunner. However, in India, he took his 'driving test' - certified Driver IC IIIrd Class. Had he had enough of killing, or was he trying to create opportunities for his future? He never was a chauffeur, he worked on the railway. Anyway, I like to think that he didn't like killing people.